This is a continuing exchange with Deb. I think it is useful
to continue this exchange to show the differences in points of view.
My comments will be in blue Debs will be in black.
Andy,
I admire the fact that you are willing to take up the pen for
what you believe, and it is not my intent to change your mind.
You are passionate as I am passionate and though I would argue
that my position is not only one of a United States citizen,
but one of a world citizen as well, I respect the fact that you
are not complacent in your concern for our country.
I find this to be the most interesting statement you can make
and shows the basic difference between the conservative and
liberal point of view. You conceder yourself a citizen of the
world. I don't know what that means. I'm an American, we have
the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. that's what I believe
in that's what we fight for. I believe these principles should
be applied to the world, but they are American.
Now I have taken quite a bit of my time to respond to your
questions, therefore I believe that it is appropriate for you
to answer some questions of mine:
How do you win a war on terror? Wouldn't it be like trying to
win a war on murder, or a war on domestic violence? How can
you war on an aspect of human nature that is intricately and
essentially tied to the reality of free will?
We are not in a war on terror. We are in World War IV against
Islamic Nazis! As humans we have free will but suicide murder
against innocent civilians is wrong and should be condemned.
How many of your freedoms and the freedoms of your fellow
citizens are you willing to turn over to an administration
that has consistently sought to expand administrative power
and stack the deck for autocracy by any means necessary?
(An example would be the redistricting of Texas voters;
laundering and funneling money from the RNC to contentious
races; attempting to stack the Supreme Court with conservative
justices etc...)
Every administration atempts to expand it's power. I don't see
this administration taking unlimited authority. We still have
an elected Congress that guards its powers granted under the
Constitution. I can not see one thing that is different in
my life now from the Clinton Administration. This is anecdotal
but that is my best barometer. And I worry about losing our
rights every day.
Gerrymandering has been going on since the beginning of the
Republic, The majority sets the boundaries for its advantage.
Tom Delay has been accused of charges of laundering and
funneling money from the RNC to contentious races. Let's
wait till the trial to see if any law was broken. You use
talking points all the time. The President doesn't stack
the Supreme Court. He appoints judges with the same
judicial philosophy that he has. That is what Clinton did
when he appointed Breyer and Ginsberg. Bush is just moving
the court more to strict constructionist
How long will you tolerate our money being thrown around in
Iraq without proper over-site?
The oversight of money is the Congresses and the spending greatly
disturbs me.
How long will you tolerate a media that has corporate interests
and corporate board members signing the checks and reigning in
the voices and challenging questions of the reporters?
You are using talking point again. Major news organization
are corporations we are a capitalist society. That doesn't mean
anything. Give me Three examples of corporate board members
reigning in the voices and challenging questions of the reporters?
The news rooms of the major media outlets are run by liberals.
Recent polls
http://www.mediaresearch.org/biasbasics/biasbasics3.asp
show most editors and reporters vote Democrat. The colleges
that graduate the reporters are populated with liberal
professors. This give the media a liberal bias.
Even Fox News reporters have admitted falling down on the job
in the run-up to Iraq.
How can you possibly argue that we are the liberators of Iraq,
when we claim that we're "fighting the terrorists over there!?!"
Doesn't that imply that we don't give a damn about the Iraqi
citizens, the Iraqi environment, and the Iraqi children?
No. It means we are going to defend America and take the fight
to the Islamic Nazis. War is hell innocent civilians will die.
We did not start this war as a matter of fact we were late
coming to the war. But now we are at war and in this War
THERE IS NO SECOND PLACE!
What is the long term objective in Iraq? If they stand up and
we stand down, isn't that contrary to our "fight them over
there" policy? Or will we just start up another war, perhaps
with Iran, or maybe North Korea?
The long term objective in Iraq is to put a moderate government
in place that believes in basic freedoms. That is opposed to
Islamic Nazis. In this war THERE IS NO SECOND PLACE! The
Islamic Nazis want to kill all the infidels. This is not
acceptable. I want to kill them before they kill us. Once the
Islamic Nazis are defeated in Iraq we must help Israel to
defeat Hamas and Hezbollah. Then we must pursue them where
ever they go next until they are not a threat to our way of life.
Just how high do you think our national debt can go before we
are owned by China, or isn't that a concern of yours?
This is a concern I don't know the answer but China needs us
right now more than we need China.
Do you believe borrow and spend is more responsible than tax
and spend?
No spending is out of control and as a conservative I believe
Congress needs to get a handle on spending or we need to vote
for conservatives that will control spending. Tax cut are
good they produce more revenue for the government.
What do you think would have been the result of spending the
money we have wasted in Iraq on domestic needs such as health
care for all children or early childhood education?
The money spent on Iraq has not been wasted. We are fighting
a war against Islamic Nazis.
Do you believe that it is in the best interest of the United
States citizenry to align ourselves with Israel regardless of
their behavior?
Yes. We must support democracies in the world. What behavior
are you referring to? Surely not defending itself against
Hamas and Hezbollah?
Do you think that the 60 women and children of Qana would be
alive today had our administration's foreign policy been the
insistence of an immediate cease-fire during the first round
of diplomacy? And if that had not worked, don't you think
that we would have been of firmer moral ground, in that we
fervently argued for and sought out a cease-fire--even if we
had failed? From my perspective the blood of those children
are not only on Hezbollah and Israel, but on both Bush and
Rice for their failed ability to see the urgency and the
potential human cost of hesitating, while tacitly approving
of Isreal's brutal bombing campaign.
Hezbolla started this conflict. We are at war, there will
be civilians killed. There needs to be two people to
negotiate a cease fire. Who are we going to negotiate with?
ISRAEL uses guided missiles to limit civilian deaths.
Hezbolla uses indiscriminate weapons that they fire at
civilians. Who has the brutal bombing campaign?
Do you honestly think that we have made any progress on the
"WAR ON TERROR?"
Yes. The Telabon is out of Afghanistan, Saddam is out of Iraq.
Where the war goes from here I don't know but read my blog on
Hows the war going. There are many fronts and freedom is
not winning in many places.
Do you honestly think that George W. Bush's foreign relations
leadership has made us safer?
Yes. If we are fighting the enemy in Afghanistan, Iraq and
Lebanon they have less chance to organize against us here.
Imagine if suicide murderers were in our malls, at our sporting
events or on our public transportation.
Don't you think emoting 911 emotions and claiming the world's
a better place because Saddam Hussein is removed is wearing a
bit thin?
NO! We can never forget 911. We are at war against an enemy
that wants to destroy our way of life and kill us. The world
is a better place for the 300,000 that Saddam would have
killed if he had not been removed.
How can Republicans claim that we have not suffered another
terrorist attack when over 2,500 of our service men and women
have lost their lives? Are not they victims of this war on
terror? And isn't the loss of any American citizen due to
terrorist attacks, a terrorist attack--no matter where on the
globe?
A terrorist attack kills civilians. The loss of our service
personnel is terrible but they fighting an enemy.
What has George W. Bush done for this country aside from lining
the pockets of the corporate energy Moguls?
Deb.
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