This is a continuing exchange with Deb. I think it is useful
to continue this exchange to show the differences in points of view.
My comments will be in blue Debs will be in black.
Andy,
I admire the fact that you are willing to take up the pen for
what you believe, and it is not my intent to change your mind.
You are passionate as I am passionate and though I would argue
that my position is not only one of a United States citizen,
but one of a world citizen as well, I respect the fact that you
are not complacent in your concern for our country.
I find this to be the most interesting statement you can make
and shows the basic difference between the conservative and
liberal point of view. You conceder yourself a citizen of the
world. I don't know what that means. I'm an American, we have
the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. that's what I believe
in that's what we fight for. I believe these principles should
be applied to the world, but they are American.
Now I have taken quite a bit of my time to respond to your
questions, therefore I believe that it is appropriate for you
to answer some questions of mine:
How do you win a war on terror? Wouldn't it be like trying to
win a war on murder, or a war on domestic violence? How can
you war on an aspect of human nature that is intricately and
essentially tied to the reality of free will?
We are not in a war on terror. We are in World War IV against
Islamic Nazis! As humans we have free will but suicide murder
against innocent civilians is wrong and should be condemned.
How many of your freedoms and the freedoms of your fellow
citizens are you willing to turn over to an administration
that has consistently sought to expand administrative power
and stack the deck for autocracy by any means necessary?
(An example would be the redistricting of Texas voters;
laundering and funneling money from the RNC to contentious
races; attempting to stack the Supreme Court with conservative
justices etc...)
Every administration atempts to expand it's power. I don't see
this administration taking unlimited authority. We still have
an elected Congress that guards its powers granted under the
Constitution. I can not see one thing that is different in
my life now from the Clinton Administration. This is anecdotal
but that is my best barometer. And I worry about losing our
rights every day.
Gerrymandering has been going on since the beginning of the
Republic, The majority sets the boundaries for its advantage.
Tom Delay has been accused of charges of laundering and
funneling money from the RNC to contentious races. Let's
wait till the trial to see if any law was broken. You use
talking points all the time. The President doesn't stack
the Supreme Court. He appoints judges with the same
judicial philosophy that he has. That is what Clinton did
when he appointed Breyer and Ginsberg. Bush is just moving
the court more to strict constructionist
How long will you tolerate our money being thrown around in
Iraq without proper over-site?
The oversight of money is the Congresses and the spending greatly
disturbs me.
How long will you tolerate a media that has corporate interests
and corporate board members signing the checks and reigning in
the voices and challenging questions of the reporters?
You are using talking point again. Major news organization
are corporations we are a capitalist society. That doesn't mean
anything. Give me Three examples of corporate board members
reigning in the voices and challenging questions of the reporters?
The news rooms of the major media outlets are run by liberals.
Recent polls
http://www.mediaresearch.org/biasbasics/biasbasics3.asp
show most editors and reporters vote Democrat. The colleges
that graduate the reporters are populated with liberal
professors. This give the media a liberal bias.
Even Fox News reporters have admitted falling down on the job
in the run-up to Iraq.
How can you possibly argue that we are the liberators of Iraq,
when we claim that we're "fighting the terrorists over there!?!"
Doesn't that imply that we don't give a damn about the Iraqi
citizens, the Iraqi environment, and the Iraqi children?
No. It means we are going to defend America and take the fight
to the Islamic Nazis. War is hell innocent civilians will die.
We did not start this war as a matter of fact we were late
coming to the war. But now we are at war and in this War
THERE IS NO SECOND PLACE!
What is the long term objective in Iraq? If they stand up and
we stand down, isn't that contrary to our "fight them over
there" policy? Or will we just start up another war, perhaps
with Iran, or maybe North Korea?
The long term objective in Iraq is to put a moderate government
in place that believes in basic freedoms. That is opposed to
Islamic Nazis. In this war THERE IS NO SECOND PLACE! The
Islamic Nazis want to kill all the infidels. This is not
acceptable. I want to kill them before they kill us. Once the
Islamic Nazis are defeated in Iraq we must help Israel to
defeat Hamas and Hezbollah. Then we must pursue them where
ever they go next until they are not a threat to our way of life.
Just how high do you think our national debt can go before we
are owned by China, or isn't that a concern of yours?
This is a concern I don't know the answer but China needs us
right now more than we need China.
Do you believe borrow and spend is more responsible than tax
and spend?
No spending is out of control and as a conservative I believe
Congress needs to get a handle on spending or we need to vote
for conservatives that will control spending. Tax cut are
good they produce more revenue for the government.
What do you think would have been the result of spending the
money we have wasted in Iraq on domestic needs such as health
care for all children or early childhood education?
The money spent on Iraq has not been wasted. We are fighting
a war against Islamic Nazis.
Do you believe that it is in the best interest of the United
States citizenry to align ourselves with Israel regardless of
their behavior?
Yes. We must support democracies in the world. What behavior
are you referring to? Surely not defending itself against
Hamas and Hezbollah?
Do you think that the 60 women and children of Qana would be
alive today had our administration's foreign policy been the
insistence of an immediate cease-fire during the first round
of diplomacy? And if that had not worked, don't you think
that we would have been of firmer moral ground, in that we
fervently argued for and sought out a cease-fire--even if we
had failed? From my perspective the blood of those children
are not only on Hezbollah and Israel, but on both Bush and
Rice for their failed ability to see the urgency and the
potential human cost of hesitating, while tacitly approving
of Isreal's brutal bombing campaign.
Hezbolla started this conflict. We are at war, there will
be civilians killed. There needs to be two people to
negotiate a cease fire. Who are we going to negotiate with?
ISRAEL uses guided missiles to limit civilian deaths.
Hezbolla uses indiscriminate weapons that they fire at
civilians. Who has the brutal bombing campaign?
Do you honestly think that we have made any progress on the
"WAR ON TERROR?"
Yes. The Telabon is out of Afghanistan, Saddam is out of Iraq.
Where the war goes from here I don't know but read my blog on
Hows the war going. There are many fronts and freedom is
not winning in many places.
Do you honestly think that George W. Bush's foreign relations
leadership has made us safer?
Yes. If we are fighting the enemy in Afghanistan, Iraq and
Lebanon they have less chance to organize against us here.
Imagine if suicide murderers were in our malls, at our sporting
events or on our public transportation.
Don't you think emoting 911 emotions and claiming the world's
a better place because Saddam Hussein is removed is wearing a
bit thin?
NO! We can never forget 911. We are at war against an enemy
that wants to destroy our way of life and kill us. The world
is a better place for the 300,000 that Saddam would have
killed if he had not been removed.
How can Republicans claim that we have not suffered another
terrorist attack when over 2,500 of our service men and women
have lost their lives? Are not they victims of this war on
terror? And isn't the loss of any American citizen due to
terrorist attacks, a terrorist attack--no matter where on the
globe?
A terrorist attack kills civilians. The loss of our service
personnel is terrible but they fighting an enemy.
What has George W. Bush done for this country aside from lining
the pockets of the corporate energy Moguls?
Deb.
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Dear Deb
You say "Hussein was complying with the international community" but the
Washington Times on March 22, 2004 wrote " Democratic presidential
candidate John Kerry complains that President
Bush pursued a unilateralist
foreign policy that gave short shrift to
the concerns of the United Nations
and our allies when it came to
taking military action against Saddam Hussein.
But the mounting
evidence of scandal that has been uncovered in the U.N.
Oil For Food
program suggests that there was never a serious possibility of
getting
Security Council support for military action because influential people
in Russia and France were getting paid off by Saddam. After the fall of
Baghdad last spring, France and Russia tried to delay the lifting of
sanctions
against Iraq and continue the Oil for Food program. That's because France
and Russia profited from it: The Times of London
calculated that
French and Russian companies received $11 billion worth
of business from
Oil for Food between 1996 and 2003.
and then this
By the NewsMax.com Staff
| For the story behind the story... |
Wednesday, Nov. 16, 2005 12:15 p.m. EST
New Documents Reveal Saddam Hid WMD, Was Tied to Al Qaida
Recently discovered Iraqi documents now being translated by U.S. intelligence analysts indicate that Saddam Hussein's government made extensive plans to hide Iraq's weapons of mass destruction before the U.S. invasion in March 2003 - and had deep ties to al Qaida before the 9/11 attacks.
The explosive evidence was discovered among "millions of pages of documents" unearthed by the Iraq Survey Group weapons search team, reports the Weekly Standard's Stephen Hayes.
This would seem to be evidence that there were Weapons of Mass Destruction.
You refer to "Curveball" James L. Pavitt, deputy director of operations and head of the clandestine service until he retired in 2004, never convey his own doubts to Tenet. Tyler Drumheller, former chief of the CIA European Division, said he never met personally with Tenet, but "did talk to McLaughlin and everybody else."
McLaughlin, who
retired in January after 32 years at the CIA, said he did not recall
the meeting and denied that Drumheller told him Curveball might be a
fabricator.
Tenet called it
"stunning and deeply disturbing" that the German warning in 2002 to
Drumheller, "if true, was never brought forward to me by anyone." He
said he first
heard doubts about Curveball after the war, and only
learned of the German warning
from the presidential commission last
month.
A
series of formal warnings should have been "immediately and formally
disseminated"
after the lunch to alert intelligence and policy
officials about the concern, Tenet said.
"No such reports were disseminated, nor do I recall the issue being brought to my
attention," he said.
Tenet
also disputed Drumheller's account of their phone conversation the
night
before Powell's speech. Tenet said he has "absolutely no
recollection" of the CIA
official warning him about Curveball.
"It
is simply wrong for anyone to intimate that I was at any point in time
put on
notice that Curveball was probably a fabricator," he said.
In order to be lying one must be knowingly telling a falsehood. At the time of
this information being given to the public it was thought to be true.
Hows the War Going
In this war there is no second place.
As I said on 9-17-2005 "The Palestinians are flooding into the Gaza Strip from Egypt. If Al-Qaeda is setting up headquarters and training camps the Israelis will have every right to attack and defend themselves if attacked. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20050915/RAFAH15/TPInternational/Africa. Maybe that was their plan all along."
As I wrote on 11-06-2005 "Terrorism is the murdering of the innocent. The Islamic fascist subjugate women, hate Jews and execute homosexuals. This is a religious war, Osama bin Laden's speeches are filled with religious arguments and theological language. Many Muslims throughout the world have not denounced the Islamic fascist they have been silent in their criticism and even celebrate them. This is a fundamentalist war against humanity against those that believes in freedom and modernity."
From 12-01-2005 "World War III, or the cold war, lasted fifty years. World War IV, the war on terrorism, could last even longer.
This war will end only when the terrorist are all dead or they give up their idea that we must all be dead. We are in Iraqi now and we must chase the terrorist to the ends of the earth. There can be no place for them to hide. This war has everything to do with 9-11. THERE IS NO SECOND PLACE."
From 2-08-2006 "The enemy (radical Islam) has shown its forces mustering hundred of thousands to go into the streets and fight for their cause violence and anarchy, slavery and death. Hammas wins election, takes authority over the Palestinians. Let's see if they are for jihad and commit suicide (I'm sure the Israelis will help} or will work for peace and freedom."
Well I guess the Israelis have decided to take the war to Hamas, into Gaza and Lebanon. The U.S. has to support them and go into Syria.
Indonesia - Cleric wants Muslim warriors for Israel
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"We
are witnessing a military invasion by Israel and the arrest of scores of Palestinian
officials," he said.
"It is now impossible to play there."
Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim nation, had earlier asked that the
venue be changed to a neutral country because it has no diplomatic relations with
Israel.
On Sunday, thousands of Muslims massed outside the United States.
Embassy in Central Jakarta to support the Palestinian people and denounce the
latest deadly offensive by Israeli troops against them.
The protesters, mobilized
by the Islamist Prosperous Justice Party (also shouted anti-American slogans as
they accused Israeli troops of committing human rights violations.
The
Southeast Asian Times
East Timor. Malaysia - Forming a new government. Let's see what happens.
Algeria - No new news.
Sudan - Quote by Jon Lewis, a Mid-East expert whose works on the Arab world’s persecution of minorities have appeared in the Wall Street Journal, Forward, In the National Interest, Middle East Quarterly and other prestigious publications;
"The media in the United States is very uncomfortable in attributing religious motivations to violence. We see this in the case of the Palestinian suicide bombers who are often described as motivated by poverty and frustration, rather than by religious ideology. In Darfur, there is indeed a religious component to the violence; after all, the Khartoum government is an Islamo-fascist one."
Serbian Moslems - No new news
. Chechnya, undefined, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan.
India - Swissinfo
July 13, 2006 - 8:15 PM
India suspects Pakistani group over bombs
By Krittivas Mukherjee
MUMBAI (Reuters) - Indian officials named Pakistan-based militant group Lashkar-e-Taiba on Thursday as the prime suspect behind bombings that killed at least 156 people in Mumbai, as police said they had detained about 20 people.
Speaking on Pakistani television Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf offered assurances to Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh of cooperation into Tuesday's coordinated attacks on India's largest city and financial hub.
Indian investigators have made sketches of three suspects seen at sites of the attacks, which targeted crowded railway carriages and stations.
"So far it looks like there was a substantial involvement of Lashkar-e-Taiba with local support," D.K. Shankaran, the most senior bureaucrat in Maharashtra state government, told Reuters.
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Bangladesh - From
Islam In Bangladesh
Compiled By OurBangla.com
Most Muslims in Bangladesh are Sunnis, but there is a small Shia community. Most of those who are Shia reside in urban areas.
Although Islam played a significant role in the life and culture of the people, religion did not dominate national politics because Islam was not the central component of national identity. When in June 1988 an "Islamic way of life" was proclaimed for Bangladesh by constitutional amendment, very little attention was paid outside the intellectual class to the meaning and impact of such an important national commitment. Most observers believed that the declaration of Islam as the state religion might have a significant impact on national life, however. Aside from arousing the suspicion of the non-Islamic minorities, it could accelerate the proliferation of religious parties at both the national and the local levels, thereby exacerbating tension and conflict between secular and religious politicians. Unrest of this nature was reported on some college campuses soon after the amendment was promulgated.
, Muslims in Britain The London transport bombings of July 2005
prompted no less than eight surveys of Muslim opinion in the United
Kingdom within the year. When added to two surveys from 2004, they
provide in the aggregate a unique insight into the thinking of the
nearly 2 million Muslims in "Londonistan."
The hostile mentality they portray is especially alarming when
one recalls that London's police commissioner, Sir Ian Blair, recently
said that the threat of terrorism "is very grim" because there are, "as
we speak, people in the UK planning further atrocities."
The 7/7 attacks: About one in 20 British Muslims has voiced
overt sympathy for the bombings a year ago. Separate polls find that
between 2 and 6 percent endorse the attacks, 4 percent refuse to
condemn them, 5 percent believe the Koran justifies them, and 6 percent
say that the suicide bombers were acting in accord with the principles
of Islam.
Without endorsing the attacks, far larger numbers show an
understanding for them: 13 percent say the 7/7 suicide bombers should
be regarded as "martyrs," 16 percent say the attacks were wrong but the
cause was right, while 20 percent feel sympathy for the "feelings and
motives" of the attackers. A whopping 56 percent can see "why some
people behave in that way."
Somalia -
Somalia: Mogadishu Main Port Handed Over to Islamists
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Shabelle Media Network (Mogadishu)
July 12, 2006
Posted to the web July 12, 2006
Mogadishu
Mogadishu's main port which has been closed for the last 10 years was fully handed today over to the Islamic Courts that took control of the Capital recently from warlords.
Militiamen loyal to Mohamoud Jama Furuh, Somalia assistant minister for the ports and sea transportation has been controlling the main port for the last years and officially handed it to the Islamic Courts today.
"We are very much appreciated to hand Mogadishu main port over the Islamic Courts and encourage other national properties be handed over" he said
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